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he is cut from the same mold as ken cuccinelli. as soon as we start talking about the actual direction he wants to take this country, women and the issues you mentioned, those don't turn off just democratic women. independent women, republican women. we do a lot of research into voters. and women on neither side of the aisle want to be disrespected. so if chris christie starts talking about the policies that he believes in and the agenda that he wants to take, women are going to flock to the democratic side as soon as they start hearing that. >> isn't that the case, governor, because it's a big win tonight for christie but isn't it the case that 2014, 2016 that people have said things that have core values that transcend their party differences. and as you mentioned if you're women, if you're gay, if you're an immigrant, if you're african-american, there are some things that has nothing to do with party labels. it has everything to do with the policies and values you believe in. >> right. and i think she made a terrific point. i th
he is cut from the same mold as ken cuccinelli. as soon as we start talking about the actual direction he wants to take this country, women and the issues you mentioned, those don't turn off just democratic women. independent women, republican women. we do a lot of research into voters. and women on neither side of the aisle want to be disrespected. so if chris christie starts talking about the policies that he believes in and the agenda that he wants to take, women are going to flock to the...
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they're going to blame cuccinelli. >> cuccinelli has managed to turn abortion, access to birth control and reproductive choice and women's health services into a wedge issue favoring democrats in the state of virginia. >> absolutely. >> it's a pretty remarkable accomplishment. >> that's an achievement. >> it's like through the culture war looking glass. >> but so much of this is tone. cuccinelli is actually not that much more conservative than bob mcdonnell who solidly won four years ago, but mcdonnell comes off as a business conservative suburban guy, where ken cuccinelli feels like the bible -- >> like a culture warrior. >> and pro-life. >> he has a tone problem, too, though. >> i don't think he does. >> he can be conciliatory, but also jabs his finger in people's faces and calls them names. >> people like that -- >> people in new jersey like that. >> new jersey's a state that spends more than $19,000 per pupil on education, 70% more than the national average, so teachers union is popular -- >> but also does quite well. the thing that was missing today, he wanted to cut a lot more fr
they're going to blame cuccinelli. >> cuccinelli has managed to turn abortion, access to birth control and reproductive choice and women's health services into a wedge issue favoring democrats in the state of virginia. >> absolutely. >> it's a pretty remarkable accomplishment. >> that's an achievement. >> it's like through the culture war looking glass. >> but so much of this is tone. cuccinelli is actually not that much more conservative than bob mcdonnell...
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it's why cuccinelli had ron paul working for him. and watch the roanoke area, particularly that media market. he has concentrated on roanoke in a way he hasn't concentrated in other areas. it's about coal country. coal folks don't like democrats but really don't like cuccinelli. they're very upset with a ruling that the attorney at law's office made there. the other takeaway, we keep sort of taking this bill de blasio blowout for granted. what's going on in new york city is unbelievable. when you think about it, and you think about what happened in the cities, new york city is sort of leading the way here, but when you think about what happened in the cities in the '80s and '90s when sort of the fear of crime waves and the rising crime rate back in the '80s made crime the number one issue and we saw all of this movement toward independent, moderate republicans taking over mayoralships in the cities, it is a massive shift to the left. new york city is the first one to go but you're seeing it all over. we told you about it earlier. de
it's why cuccinelli had ron paul working for him. and watch the roanoke area, particularly that media market. he has concentrated on roanoke in a way he hasn't concentrated in other areas. it's about coal country. coal folks don't like democrats but really don't like cuccinelli. they're very upset with a ruling that the attorney at law's office made there. the other takeaway, we keep sort of taking this bill de blasio blowout for granted. what's going on in new york city is unbelievable. when...
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ken cuccinelli. >> homophobic, birther friendly, big three hating ken cuccinelli. >> the commonwealth chooses a new governor. >> the re-election for virginia governor is days away. >> virginia has a history of getting it right. >> and our number one story to watch, canadian comedy. >> if ted cruz gave up politics, do you think he'd have a viable career as a stand up comedian? >> have you met ted? >> ted cruz will appear on the tonight show. >> he vows to keep speaking until he is no longer able to stand. >> and now the dr. seuss bible. >> if he collapses from exhaustion, he'll be covered under obama care. >> if you keep talking they can't throw you off. it's a real rule. >> he is trusted and fair. >> listening to ted cruz, how awful is that? >> everyone laughs, but where's the next joke? >> joining me now talk radio consultant holland cook. good to have you with us tonight. i don't want to date both of us, but what is the name of that old show where the announcer said will the real ted cruz please stand up. >> please stand up. ed, hello from boston home of your world champion red sox
ken cuccinelli. >> homophobic, birther friendly, big three hating ken cuccinelli. >> the commonwealth chooses a new governor. >> the re-election for virginia governor is days away. >> virginia has a history of getting it right. >> and our number one story to watch, canadian comedy. >> if ted cruz gave up politics, do you think he'd have a viable career as a stand up comedian? >> have you met ted? >> ted cruz will appear on the tonight show....
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he linked republican ken cuccinelli to the national tea party. let's see if he made the proper connection. take a look. >> you've seen an extreme faction of the republican party that has shown again and again and again that they're willing to hijack the entire party and the country and the economy and grind progress to an absolute halt if they don't get 100% of what they want. if you embrace the very politics that led to this shutdown, then i guarantee you, it's not in the rear-view mirror of voters in virginia. they remember. they understand that that is not how you govern and that is not how you move america forward. >> so, larry, cuccinelli's campaign is predicting that the president's presence there would energize republican voters who were outraged over the botched rollout of obama care. is there a chance that cuccinelli could pull out a last-minute win because of the problems with the obama care website and not about what's in the rear-view mirror of the shutdown? >> you know, i always say there's always a chance, because every now and then
he linked republican ken cuccinelli to the national tea party. let's see if he made the proper connection. take a look. >> you've seen an extreme faction of the republican party that has shown again and again and again that they're willing to hijack the entire party and the country and the economy and grind progress to an absolute halt if they don't get 100% of what they want. if you embrace the very politics that led to this shutdown, then i guarantee you, it's not in the rear-view...
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casting cuccinelli as divicive. he urged democrats not to take anything for granted. >> the one political virtue of extremism is this. if you can really get people all hot and bothered and their inside is in knots, full of anger and steam coming out of their ears instead of a light bulb going off in their brains, they will vote. they will show up every time. >> republicans inside washington run against health care and republicans outside washington run against washington, democrats everywhere are running against the tea party. >> just recently my opponent, ken cuccinelli was campaigning at a gathering of his supporters with ted cruz. he refused to stand up for virginia and against ted cruz's shut down strategy. >> they love to criticize terry and say he's a deal maker. remember what we went through and i will say give me one. give me one. just one. >> clinton cast criticism with the health care site's rocky roll out as an unwillingness to govern. >> we have to implement this law and the computer deal will get fixed
casting cuccinelli as divicive. he urged democrats not to take anything for granted. >> the one political virtue of extremism is this. if you can really get people all hot and bothered and their inside is in knots, full of anger and steam coming out of their ears instead of a light bulb going off in their brains, they will vote. they will show up every time. >> republicans inside washington run against health care and republicans outside washington run against washington, democrats...
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erin, ken cuccinelli has already been struggling with female voters, in the most recent polls down a whopping 24 points. now he's got rapid paul going off about science fiction and the reason behind denying a woman control of her own body. is that a way to win back female voters? >> it's not the way to win back female voters. if you're looking at this double digit gap continuing to yawning and continuing to grow, these are people who supported personhood amendments. they are trying to -- ken cuccinelli himself is actively involved in shutting down clinics that provide health care to women. i mean, it's happening every day. you don't have to look like rand paul did towards a distoppian reality. ken cuccinelli is already trying to do it in virginia. >> didn't they learn anything from the last election? >> they did not. you can see them doing -- i look at the news out of texas this week, look at virginia. every day brings a new list of regulations, restrictions. a draconian abortion restriction, trying to shut down clinics. i think that they think that this is a base strategy that there
erin, ken cuccinelli has already been struggling with female voters, in the most recent polls down a whopping 24 points. now he's got rapid paul going off about science fiction and the reason behind denying a woman control of her own body. is that a way to win back female voters? >> it's not the way to win back female voters. if you're looking at this double digit gap continuing to yawning and continuing to grow, these are people who supported personhood amendments. they are trying to --...
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dynamite against cuccinelli, mainly. they got to get home from work on the shirley highway by 7:00 and vote. that's tough. >> before you get to the occoquan. >> you look at these things with some precision. >> so many things have worked against ken cuccinelli. it's almost like a perfect storm. >> it was. let's start from the very beginning. ken cuccinelli was a flawed candidate going in. here you are in a swing state. >> they forced a primary, they forced a convention, attention recognizes, if you want to get candidates that don't have broad support please force a convention and lose. >> terry mcauliffe's campaign on friday did a post mortem but making a few points. they said terry mcauliffe had a luxury that ken cuccinelli didn't, which is if you move to the center and you're a democratic nominee your base doesn't punish you. your base doesn't get angry. you move to the center as a republican nominee and the base gets angry. and we can actually see it in new jersey with chris christie. there's not a large tea party base
dynamite against cuccinelli, mainly. they got to get home from work on the shirley highway by 7:00 and vote. that's tough. >> before you get to the occoquan. >> you look at these things with some precision. >> so many things have worked against ken cuccinelli. it's almost like a perfect storm. >> it was. let's start from the very beginning. ken cuccinelli was a flawed candidate going in. here you are in a swing state. >> they forced a primary, they forced a...
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"the path for the gop's gubernatorial candidate, ken cuccinelli," the chairman says, "looks like this. if turnout is in the 30s, the low 30s, we are going to win." politico points out that in the last presidential election, voter turnout in virginia was 72%. in the last governors race, it was 40%. but the plan and the prayer and the hope of the republican party in virginia this time around is that nobody turns out. they don't want to be at 72% or at 40%. they've got to be down toward maybe 32% or lower, and then the republicans might get their way. that's the only way the republicans can win. they think 32%'s their ceiling. below that, it would be even greater. anything above that, they start to get into trouble. plus, they've got the purge on their side, so there's that. something has ticked over this year. something has been triggered or unleashed somehow in this off-off-year election cycle, where republicans have been willing to admit this in public, that they really do not want you to view. the fewer people vote, the better off republicans are. it's happening in texas, it's happen
"the path for the gop's gubernatorial candidate, ken cuccinelli," the chairman says, "looks like this. if turnout is in the 30s, the low 30s, we are going to win." politico points out that in the last presidential election, voter turnout in virginia was 72%. in the last governors race, it was 40%. but the plan and the prayer and the hope of the republican party in virginia this time around is that nobody turns out. they don't want to be at 72% or at 40%. they've got to be...
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not endorsing cuccinelli. a number of high profile republicans not supporting the ticket at this point. there is a lot of rethinking. remember the party is controlled by the nomination process which happens to be convention at this point. a very conservative central committee. so for all of this i think it will take a few years to sort out. this is not going to sort out overnight, look, the election is not over. you had about five polls with different turnout models. this is all about turnout. the real question is what will happen in the legislature, a an appreciable number of seats. they'll hold it. chris christie in new jersey, winning in a blue state, virginia appears to be in per im. so it says something about the party? steve, the republicans in virginia are very slow learners. a few years ago, they didn't want tom davis to be their candidate for the united states senate and so they refused to have a primary which tom probably would have won and they had their convention and produced a candidate who could
not endorsing cuccinelli. a number of high profile republicans not supporting the ticket at this point. there is a lot of rethinking. remember the party is controlled by the nomination process which happens to be convention at this point. a very conservative central committee. so for all of this i think it will take a few years to sort out. this is not going to sort out overnight, look, the election is not over. you had about five polls with different turnout models. this is all about turnout....
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still, none of this is ex-pebpe to help cuccinelli or his campaign where his latest scandal involves the venom he once spewed in a newsletter sent to reporters. with the president scheduled to campaign for democrat terry mcauliffe this weekend, the only question now appears to be whether cuccinelli loses by double or single digits. joining us now, msnbc political analyst, the great professor michael eric dyson. this race, sir, has been a snapshot of what is hurting republicans nationally. we have a candidate who performs very poorly among women. whose hatred for homosexuality is matched by his contempt for the affordable care act and seems obsessed that oral sex is never performed in public. does that seem like a winning agenda to you? >> only if you're interested in multicultural -- on halloween. tho that's not a treat, that's a trick. absolutely, martin. you articulated by the republican party continues to face enormous barriers and hurdles trying to reach out to other reasonable americans but in specific fashion to african-americans and other minorities who happen to believe that
still, none of this is ex-pebpe to help cuccinelli or his campaign where his latest scandal involves the venom he once spewed in a newsletter sent to reporters. with the president scheduled to campaign for democrat terry mcauliffe this weekend, the only question now appears to be whether cuccinelli loses by double or single digits. joining us now, msnbc political analyst, the great professor michael eric dyson. this race, sir, has been a snapshot of what is hurting republicans nationally. we...
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mcauliffe, 45, cuccinelli 38. the election is this tuesday. polls in virginia close at 7:00 eastern. that's an early close. "hardball" will be quick with results with the exit polling and analysis here. join us tuesday night 7:00 eastern. "hardball" will have results. we'll be right back. so we could be a better, safer energy company. i can tell you - safety is at the heart of everything we do. we've added cutting-edge technology, like a new deepwater well cap and a state-of-the-art monitoring center, where experts watch over all drilling activity twenty-four-seven. and we're sharing what we've learned, so we can all produce energy more safely. our commitment has never been stronger. as your life and career change, fidelity is there for your personal economy, helping you readjust your retirement plan along the way, rethink how you're invested, and refocus as your career moves forward. wherever you are today, a fidelity i.r.a. has a wide range of investment choices to help you fine-tune your personal economy. call today, and we'll make it easy
mcauliffe, 45, cuccinelli 38. the election is this tuesday. polls in virginia close at 7:00 eastern. that's an early close. "hardball" will be quick with results with the exit polling and analysis here. join us tuesday night 7:00 eastern. "hardball" will have results. we'll be right back. so we could be a better, safer energy company. i can tell you - safety is at the heart of everything we do. we've added cutting-edge technology, like a new deepwater well cap and a...
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"the path for the gop's gubernatorial candidate, ken cuccinelli," the chairman says, "looks like this. if turnout is in the 30s, the low 30s, we are going to win." politico points out that in the last presidential election, voter turnout in virginia was 72%. in the last governors race, it was 40%. but the plan and the prayer and the hope of the republican party in virginia this time around is that nobody turns out. they don't want to be at 72% or at 40%. they've got to be down toward maybe 32% or lower, and then the republicans might get their way. that's the only way the republicans can win. they think 32%'s their ceiling. below that, it would be even greater. anything above that, they start to get into trouble. plus, they've got the purge on their side, so there's that. something has ticked over this year. something has been triggered or unleashed somehow in this off-off-year election cycle, where republicans have been willing to admit this in public, that they really do not want you to view. the fewer people vote, the better off republicans are. it's happening in texas, it's happen
"the path for the gop's gubernatorial candidate, ken cuccinelli," the chairman says, "looks like this. if turnout is in the 30s, the low 30s, we are going to win." politico points out that in the last presidential election, voter turnout in virginia was 72%. in the last governors race, it was 40%. but the plan and the prayer and the hope of the republican party in virginia this time around is that nobody turns out. they don't want to be at 72% or at 40%. they've got to be...
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he'll be in virginia this weekend campaigning for ken cuccinelli -- >> perfect. >> -- a very right wing republican candidate for governor. >> perfect. >> i think his problem is the wisconsinites are really getting on to him. it's notable if that poll you mentioned mary burke, the announced candidate, a democrat, got 45%. kathleen vinhaut, a state senator who hasn't said she's going to run for governor, might get into the primary, got 44%. what you see is wisconsinites are clearly looking for an alternative, and my sense is that if scott walker keeps running around the country, campaigning for president, somebody might be able to spend some time in wisconsin and beat him. >> he clearly wants to be president of the united states. wants the nomination. in his book, walker made a point of trashing romney's campaign strategy. he says that romney did a lousy job of presenting a positive vision of free-market solutions to our nation's problem in a way that is relevant to people's lives." ruth, what do you think? do you think walker has laid out solutions? >> well, maybe he presents them with a
he'll be in virginia this weekend campaigning for ken cuccinelli -- >> perfect. >> -- a very right wing republican candidate for governor. >> perfect. >> i think his problem is the wisconsinites are really getting on to him. it's notable if that poll you mentioned mary burke, the announced candidate, a democrat, got 45%. kathleen vinhaut, a state senator who hasn't said she's going to run for governor, might get into the primary, got 44%. what you see is wisconsinites...
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mccauliffe leads cuccinelli. i understand the president is going into virginia this weekend. >> if i were the president, that's what i would do. up by 12%, no chance democrats aren't going to win the seat, then i would go in there and be able to help claim part of the victory. mccauliffe is a little nervous and wants turnout from the groups that helped obama in the state. i don't think there's any mystery to the outcome of this race. i think probably inside the white house, a little worried that the clintons are getting all the attention for spending so much time on this race in the state, building up their political operation, and will they get the credit for the victory, you know, partially, at the end of the day this was probably a superior candidate in an environment that very much favored democrats. >> jim, i'm going to ask you this. from outside virginia, not following the race closely, makes no sense to me that a libertarian candidate would run against ken cuccinelli, whose conservative credentials are abo
mccauliffe leads cuccinelli. i understand the president is going into virginia this weekend. >> if i were the president, that's what i would do. up by 12%, no chance democrats aren't going to win the seat, then i would go in there and be able to help claim part of the victory. mccauliffe is a little nervous and wants turnout from the groups that helped obama in the state. i don't think there's any mystery to the outcome of this race. i think probably inside the white house, a little...
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one of the things you notice when you look, for example, at chris christie and ken cuccinelli is that friction, the difference between the tea party versus the establishment. and i want to play for you what conservative leader ralph reed says he thinks the republican party needs to do moving forward. >> you've got to say what you're for and not just what you're against. >> amen. >> it's not enough to be against obama care, what's your plan. secondly, you have to win some candidates who are effective messengers who can win people who even don't always agree with you on every issue. >> so how does the republican party move forward from here? what will you be looking for? what will poll numbers tell us? >> what i like is the republican establishment and republican elites kind of looking at the republican party and saying what ought to happen. but the fact is the voters -- the primary voters, the base voters of the republican party are the drivers of this. and they're the ones who give us these candidates that are elected in general elections. chris christie probably can't be nominated in
one of the things you notice when you look, for example, at chris christie and ken cuccinelli is that friction, the difference between the tea party versus the establishment. and i want to play for you what conservative leader ralph reed says he thinks the republican party needs to do moving forward. >> you've got to say what you're for and not just what you're against. >> amen. >> it's not enough to be against obama care, what's your plan. secondly, you have to win some...
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the polls, desperate to turn things around, the republican candidate for governor of virginia, ten cuccinelli, the cucc, was on the trail today ripping obama care, convinced, it seems, that this will be the issue that can catapult him to an improbable victory tomorrow. probably not going to happen, but bashing obama care is good politics if you're a republican right now. and it certainly helps
the polls, desperate to turn things around, the republican candidate for governor of virginia, ten cuccinelli, the cucc, was on the trail today ripping obama care, convinced, it seems, that this will be the issue that can catapult him to an improbable victory tomorrow. probably not going to happen, but bashing obama care is good politics if you're a republican right now. and it certainly helps
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those votes could split and help cuccinelli. jenna: it's a race we'll continue to watch. thank you. jon: happening now, harsh words for obamacare's rollout and the president's promise that no one could lose their health care plans. from the man the white house says is the model for obamacare, former governor and presidential candidate mitt romney. >> obamacare barely made it through washington as you know, and there's no question in my mind but had the president been truthful and told the american people that millions would lose their insurance and millions more would see their premiums skyrocket, had he told them that at the time it was going through washington, there would have been such a huge cry against it, it would not have passed. jon: but the so-called architect of obamacare pushing back against claims that mr. obama misled anyone. >> when we passed the law, we said any plan that existed before the date the law was passed would be grandfathered in unless lots of changes were made. now, you know we have to imagine obamacare not against the blank slate but against what insuran
those votes could split and help cuccinelli. jenna: it's a race we'll continue to watch. thank you. jon: happening now, harsh words for obamacare's rollout and the president's promise that no one could lose their health care plans. from the man the white house says is the model for obamacare, former governor and presidential candidate mitt romney. >> obamacare barely made it through washington as you know, and there's no question in my mind but had the president been truthful and told the...